Duel.

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
04/27/2019 at 23:39 • Filed to: KINJA MURDERED MY POST, unnecessary car shopping without E90M3

Hello, people of Oppo, help me ponder this question; would you get a Kia or a VW?

The Kia in question: The K3 Cerato C’eed Forte HB GT... or so called here.

This Kia comes with a 201hp 1.6 Turbo engine, and a six speed manual transmission, all for 23,600 dollars. Interestingly, on the range-topping model, the GT, gets independent rear suspension... the rest get a torsion bar.

Inspiration animal according to Kia: A Tiger.

ALTERNATIVELY, you could get a homegrown bruiser, the most famous of Mexican cars... the Volkswagen Jetta GLI!

The Jetta is not sold with a manual transmission, but it makes up for it with a 29HP bump over the Kia... Shamefully it does not come in Orange Delight as the Kia does.

The other issue is that the Jetta is 3,000 dollars more expensive. Are 29hp worth the extra expense?

It must be said that the Jetta is a much larger car, the trunk is 25% larger, and it’s 20cm longer than the Kia...but the thing is... Kia loves making heavy-ass cars...which leaves us with the Forte being 70kg* heavier than the Jetta!

Maybe if the price could be ignored, this could be a daily driver head to head!

*: This is according to Kia Mexico’s brochure, Wikipedia’s article on the Forte (the german one interestingly) claims the weight to be 1322KG, as opposed to Kia Mexico’s claimed 1555KG

DISCUSSION (33)

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:43

Kia all day long. While I joke about my Forte, it is an amazing value and I really like their higher end models like the k900 and stinger

bob and john > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:43

mmmmmm id get the GLI tbh. more tuning potential, more aftermarket. more support.

MM54 > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:47

Do I have to?

If so, probably the VW. It’ll probably have some semblance of resale value so I can get rid of it as soon as the term of this strange scenario expires.

Spanfeller is a twat > MM54
04/27/2019 at 23:48

I didn’t set it up for you to resell it and buy something else, hypothetically... smh.

Spanfeller is a twat > bob and john
04/27/2019 at 23:49

I mean, the GLI is a mighty car too. I’m just a bit biased to the Kia.

AestheticsInMotion > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:50

Kia. Way better warranty, less suspect reliability. Didn't you say that Kia dealers are decent in your area too?

Spanfeller is a twat > AestheticsInMotion
04/27/2019 at 23:51

The dealers are great... the techs on the other hand... I’m starting to have my doubts. But it’s probably the same at VW, it’s easy to mess up when the same guy has to deal with a Rio/Gol and a Stinger/Artheon under the same roof.

What I mean with that is that, if you mess the alignment by 0.3 degrees on a Rio, the customer doesn’t get angry, but when you mess by that much on a Stinger, they do. Or if you overinflate their tires, or torque the wheel nuts with impact guns .... or leave the car outside the shop, or any other petty complain I wouldn’t be having to deal with in a BMW dealer.

MM54 > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:53

Well I don’t want either!

Spanfeller is a twat > MM54
04/27/2019 at 23:54

You could let us know which car you’d get otherwise....

Spanfeller is a twat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
04/27/2019 at 23:55

I don’t understand why I like it so much... the interior is pretty nice too.

MM54 > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:57

Off the top of my head, you could probably get a lightly used WRX for the same 26 grand as the Jetta (in the states at least, no idea what your market is like for any particular cars ). If it has to be brand-new-off-the-lot for the same budget, I’m not sure. What’s a new MX5 start at?

SmugAardvark > Spanfeller is a twat
04/27/2019 at 23:59

I think either one would be a fine choice for daily driver duties. I’d probably lean towards the GLI solely because I think it looks better.

Spanfeller is a twat > MM54
04/28/2019 at 00:00

Ah, you hit the ultimate answer.

As for a “Lightly used” WRX.... it depends... since it’s not such a common car here, mostly Subaru-geeks get them, so most used WRXs on sale right now are modded, they go from 23k to 32k.

Spanfeller is a twat > SmugAardvark
04/28/2019 at 00:02

I have a personal issue with Jettas... but yeah, it’s a pretty car. But the rear end on that Kia really looks very good irl.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 00:09

Kia

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 00:10

Kia!

dogisbadob > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 00:13

Kia >> VW

I know VW is popular down there, but their cars suck in terms of reliability

I don’t think Kia sells the 1.6T manual up here, so you should get one since you can down there which is onbe of many cool cars you get that we don’t :o)

smobgirl > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 00:16

Kia! But not that Kia - that’s particularly ugly even by Kia standards.

Spanfeller is a twat > dogisbadob
04/28/2019 at 00:19

Sometimes I wonder if I could sell the Stinger and get a Niro instead, but maybe this would work too. But i’d be losing so much money to depreciation it wouldn’t even be funny.

Spanfeller is a twat > smobgirl
04/28/2019 at 00:20

Boo. I think it’s pretty.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 00:31

Golf sport wagon.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 00:41

I’d get the VW because trunk. I don’t get hatchbacks. I’ll take the sedan the vast majority of the time. Also while I haven’t driven this GLI yet, other MQB cars have some sort of voodoo magic going on with the ride/handling balance. They are so much better than competitors in their price bracket . I guess the GT trim of the Forte could be close, but I have to drive it to believe.

DutchieDC2R > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 01:06

I had the SAME discussion yesterday with my dad, except, we were comparing a Pro’Ceed GT (also with the 1.6T) to an A3, albeit the used car market. The VW’s (in our case Audi) keep their value a lot better, but as far as options go and what you get for what you pay for, I’d go for the Kia.

By the time I option out that Audi the same way the Kia is optioned, the Audi will have doubled in price, if not more. Kia for me.

Spanfeller is a twat > DutchieDC2R
04/28/2019 at 01:22

I love the Kia, but I’m surprised by the curb weight.

SmugAardvark > Spanfeller is a twat
04/28/2019 at 02:03

Yeah, I do like the HB rear on the Kia. But the front and side angles look pretty uninspired to me.

Like I said, I think either one would make a fine choice.